Very wordy piece that was interesting, but could easily have been said in three paragraphs.
Unfortuantely, it smacks a bit of "wah wah poor me, daddy give me more food from sisters bowl".
The point made by the anon poster at the end interestingly makes the arguement that VM demand sharing from Sky in TV, however VM often advertise how the have the market in broadband, and don't share that.
Sorry Lee, but I completely disagree. Virgin's fibre broadband hardly dominates and distorts the ISP market in the same manner that Sky's content gives the control over the pay-TV one.
Virgin don't rent out any of their network to other ISPs as far as I'm aware. Given that it covers identical territory to that covered by other suppliers, notably BT, it's not an exclusive service.
Neither is Sky Sports exclusive to Sky, you can get it on Virgin at the moment - what you cannot get is the HD version. So, where is the difference. Ofcom are saying that Sky should make their premium HD channel available to Virgin et al, so why shouldn't Virgin be made to make their premium broadband available to all its competitors.
Nialli, thanks for the post about ofcom, great reading - but as for the other 2 posts moaning about the VM broadband, first of all the other ISP's only use an ADSL service, so they do not have the capability to run cable broadband.
Secondly sky have no choice but to abide by OFCOM's decision, if they fail to comply they could have sanction imposed upon them which could have a detrimental effect to their service in the future.
Sky have had things all their own way for far too long, many people think the sun shines out of their backside, but at the end of the day, Sky were bullies in this industry, however they are no longer the big boy on the block. VM is part of the Virgin company which just happens to be the 4th largest company in Europe & the 10th largest company in the world. Now this is not to say Virgin do not have their faults, VM or Telewest as it was back in 2006, beat sky to the launch of the HD service, but all they did was put it on a shelf to gather dust.
The best thing to come out of all this is that customers of both VM & Sky will benefit in the long run.
Square yes - I agree with the essence of your post. Please don't refer to posters as moaners, however. We are here to debate and discuss, which means at times people will disagree - just different points of view, nothing wrong with that.
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Very wordy piece that was interesting, but could easily have been said in three paragraphs.
Unfortuantely, it smacks a bit of "wah wah poor me, daddy give me more food from sisters bowl".
The point made by the anon poster at the end interestingly makes the arguement that VM demand sharing from Sky in TV, however VM often advertise how the have the market in broadband, and don't share that.
This is going to run and run....
Sorry Lee, but I completely disagree. Virgin's fibre broadband hardly dominates and distorts the ISP market in the same manner that Sky's content gives the control over the pay-TV one.
I'd agree that there are plenty of other ISP's about, but do they rent out much, if any, of their lines?
Virgin don't rent out any of their network to other ISPs as far as I'm aware. Given that it covers identical territory to that covered by other suppliers, notably BT, it's not an exclusive service.
Nialli,
Neither is Sky Sports exclusive to Sky, you can get it on Virgin at the moment - what you cannot get is the HD version. So, where is the difference. Ofcom are saying that Sky should make their premium HD channel available to Virgin et al, so why shouldn't Virgin be made to make their premium broadband available to all its competitors.
Nialli, thanks for the post about ofcom, great reading - but as for the other 2 posts moaning about the VM broadband, first of all the other ISP's only use an ADSL service, so they do not have the capability to run cable broadband.
Secondly sky have no choice but to abide by OFCOM's decision, if they fail to comply they could have sanction imposed upon them which could have a detrimental effect to their service in the future.
Sky have had things all their own way for far too long, many people think the sun shines out of their backside, but at the end of the day, Sky were bullies in this industry, however they are no longer the big boy on the block. VM is part of the Virgin company which just happens to be the 4th largest company in Europe & the 10th largest company in the world. Now this is not to say Virgin do not have their faults, VM or Telewest as it was back in 2006, beat sky to the launch of the HD service, but all they did was put it on a shelf to gather dust.
The best thing to come out of all this is that customers of both VM & Sky will benefit in the long run.
Square yes - I agree with the essence of your post. Please don't refer to posters as moaners, however. We are here to debate and discuss, which means at times people will disagree - just different points of view, nothing wrong with that.
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